Thread Name: ML History Clean Up From: Ron Holl <modlib@removed> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:57:46 -0400 I believe we should, as a service to the new collector, edit our ML history text (where possible) to avoid this confusion that the ML was discontinued/ceased printing/etc. I was first clued in over a year ago by Amy C. She had a listing posted for Roth/Goodbye Columbus and indicated an early 70's printing. I asked her how can that be, if the ML shut down in 1970. She kindly responded with the ISBN clue. Then sometime later John W. posted a catalog from the mid 70's showing many ML's for sale. Surely those weren't all remainders! And now finding all these DJ's with ISBN's printed shows the presses were clearly still rolling. ------------------------------------- From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:42:45 -0700 When time allows, I'll go through the dog- er, modernlib articles and correct the dates. It will be a bit difficult; I guess the way to say it is that the last new title in the classic series was issued in 1970 with printing continuing through 1974. Yes? ------------------------------------- From: Gordon Neavill <aa3401@removed> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:23:20 -0400 (EDT) The ML stopped adding new titles in 1970 and over the next few years drastically cut back the number of titles in print. 118 titles were dropped in 1971, but 137 regular titles and 51 Giants (including English Romantic Poets) were maintained. More titles were dropped later, but the series never disappeared completely. The "reissues" (including a number of new titles) were published 1977-1985, and a few of them remained in print up to 1992 when the current ML began to be published. ------------------------------------- From: Ron Holl <modlib@removed> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:12:21 -0400 Wow... That about covers it! I'll place this text in the bindery also. Thanks Barry. ------------------------------------- From: J B Krygier <jbkrygier@removed> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:45:51 -0400 On Jul 26, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Gordon Neavill wrote: >The ML stopped adding new titles in 1970 and over the next few years >drastically cut back the number of titles in print. but... On Jul 24, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Gordon Neavill wrote: >My copy of the 2nd edition of Auden's Selected Poetry has an ISBN >on the back panel of the jacket (lower right) and also on the verso >of the title page. I've never been able to confirm the publication >date and give it in my bibliography as 1971/72. The latest >copyright date is given as 1970. >Auden was writing RH about the contents at the end of April 1971 >(he wanted the author's note in the 1st edition deleted from the >2nd). Jason Epstein at RH wrote him that it would appear as a >Vintage paperback in September 1971 and by early 1972 in the ML . One could argue that the 2nd ed revised Auden was not a new title, but it at least is a significant variant published in 1971 or '72. It seems the "end" of the ML actively publishing titles is a bit blurry. ------------------------------------- From: Gordon Neavill <aa3401@removed> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Auden's Selected Poetry was one of the ML titles that Random House decided to "maintain" after 1970, so when Auden prepared a revised edition that was also being published in Vintage Books it made sense to publish it in the ML as well. Auden was one of Random House's oldest and most pretigious authors, and I imagine he wouldn't have been pleased to have the old edition maintained in the ML alongside the new edition in Vintage Books. This is the only ML title to my knowledge that was revised after 1970. ------------------------------------- From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:55:34 -0700 On Jul 27, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Gordon Neavill wrote: >Auden's Selected Poetry was ... the only ML title ... revised after 1970. I smell a new Amenities trivia question!!! Ron? ------------------------------------- From: Ron Holl <modlib@removed> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:44:40 -0400 Your sense of smell is very good! I agree... more on this and other Amenities updates to follow. -------------------------------------