Thread Name: A Pirate's Life For Me-Yet Again

From: GOODBOOKS@removed> ((JOSEPH HILL)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:04:38 -0800

[For the original thread, search "Ho, ho.it's a pirates life for me" in November, 2003]

I still would like to see a listing of seen/known titles [of pirated editions], as we have with the buckrum editions. To try and get the ball rolling, these are the titles in my collection-

The Brothers Karamazov
The Complete Tales And Poems Of Edgar Allan Poe
Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire (3 vols.)
Sons And Lovers
The Wisdom Of Confucius
The Wisdom Of Latose
War And Peace

(All with dust jacket)

I would think that only the most common of titles would fall into this category. I picked the Gibbon up at a store in Bremerton, Washington, being in a West Coast Naval port, the shop had lots of pirate editions but, sadly only that one ML set.


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From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:57:28 -0800

I think this is a neat idea and I'm certainly willing to set up a page for it in Dogeared. I have an oversized Steppenwolf in a strange binding not in your list

Let's think this through a little - what should each entry include?

1. tile & author
2. Which SPECIFIC Toldedano number is the fraud based on
3. Identifying characteristics: odd size (what dimensions?), chopmarks (on what pages?), missing/added/strange data (e.g. missing logos)
4. Scan or photo of odd stuff, especially bindinggs & chopmarks. It would be interesting if we could get the chopmarks translated, or if we found a pattern of similar chopmarks linking the copies to a single perpetrator

What else?


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From: GOODBOOKS@removed> ((JOSEPH HILL)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:24:33 -0800

Scot has a pirate edition of [Steppenwolf]. That shoots a hole in my idea of "only very common titles." Also, I had the idea that a pirate edition would not be published??? as late as the 1960's Live and perhaps learn a little...


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From: "John Wolansky" <jwol@removed>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:42:15 -0500

In addition to War and Peace, I have:

The Rainbow Complete Works of Homer


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From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:43:52 -0800

Same question goes for everybody: Are these [pirate editions] all in the Blumenthal format and 50's style dust jackets?

You all might take a look on the associated page in the Dogeared image database and tell me what image matches your dust jacket. (Just use the year above the DJ image.)


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From: Scot Kamins <kamins@removed>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:30:38 -0800

Folks, Here's what we have so far (17 titles):

[List removed - see http://www.dogeared.com/FAQpages/generalFAQ/faqPirate.html]

Additionally, the following have been reported by more than one person:

Confucius - The Wisdom Of Confucius (2) Maugham - Best Stories (2) Tolstoy - War And Peace (2)

It would be interesting to know the characteristics of at least these three titles to see if there is more than one pirating company at work.

By the way, so far there aren't enough titles to warrant a separate page in Dogeared. But as John Krygier mentioned last year, it certainly is FAQ material.

[See http://www.dogeared.com/FAQpages/generalFAQ/faqPirate.html for more info on the pirated editions]


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From: GOODBOOKS@removed> ((JOSEPH HILL)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:43:19 -0800

I wish they had made a pirate of the Gatsby or perhaps 1.1, that would be a BLAST!!


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From: John Krygier <jbkrygie@removed>
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 10:46:19 -0500

A few scans of my Maugham & Confucious pirates:

http://makingmaps.owu.edu/modernlibrary/ml_pirate/ml_pirate.html


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